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Asserting Your Rights With the Police

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When the cops come a-knockin'.


Imagine how you might handle it if two police officers

came to your house wanting to question you

about an alleged incident.


That's the scene depicted in the case of a homeowner

who'd had cameras mounted and in place when the

cops showed up. A party had claimed the homeowner had

pointed a gun at someone, though details were sketchy

and the homeowner denied it.


An off-camera narrator explains how police use a

come-outside tactic to gain access to arrest potential

suspects .. and how to counter this tactic.  He also explains

how the police are inclined to interrogate someone based

on a single phone call or complaint in an

attempt to incriminate.



Source... on YouTube, "I Don't Open the Door For Cops"

(LackLuster channel)



Note: the depicted confrontation occurred in the USA.

Constitutional protections and laws may vary in other

countries and jurisdictions. Nothing I post on this thread

should be considered legal advice. Consult an attorney

or qualified legal advisor as necessary.


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beppi

Recently, after we had a minor argument, one of my tenants called the police and claimed that I have threatened him with an axe. They immediately sent three men with machine guns plus two big dogs - I had to stand with hands up against a wall while they searched me and the surroundings. I quickly convinced them that I am harmless (and don't own an axe or any other weapon).

But I will still tell this story (in more detail) to my grandchildren!

abthree

05/22/23 Recently, after we had a minor argument, one of my tenants called the police and claimed that I have threatened him with an axe. They immediately sent three men with machine guns plus two big dogs - I had to stand with hands up against a wall while they searched me and the surroundings.
-@beppi


Glad that you're ok.  If it had been me, that tenant would already be on notice that there's no lease renewal in his future, so he'd better be looking for a new place.


But it wouldn't have been me, because this is one of the reasons I'd never consider investing in rental property.  I'm not as good a person as you are. 😅

beppi

@abthree In Germany, leases are unlimited and tenants difficult to eject - unless you have a legally valid reason - and courts are usually tenant-friendly: One decided last week that, despite everything, the guy has the right to stay on until end of this year.

By the way: The argument was about him stealing electricity from me, because his provider stopped supplies (because he didn't pay). The police told him in the end that that is NOT o.k.

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"Don't be a dick," said the sergeant.


In Christian County, Texas, Caleb is pulled over

by an elderly trooper, Sergeant Maples.


Caleb declines the trooper's request to do a

search of the vehicle. But Maples makes him

unlock the driver-side door and then

gets handsy inside the car in violation of

the Fourth Amendment protection against

illegal searches in the absence of

probable cause. The officer claims that

Caleb's arm tattoo is an indication that

he might have a gun.


When Caleb exercises his Constitutional right

not to answer all questions, Sgt. Maples

tells him, "Don't be a dick."


The short video 'Deputy Makes His Own Rules'

makes the point that some peace officers

either do not understand or do not respect

USA citizens' rights.


Source... YouTube channel Lady Lackluster

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Officer's dubious escalation.


Citizen Julian films in and outside a building

where state offices are located in Delaware.


Officer Andrew Partyka is informed that Julian

was asked to leave by a superintendent .. and

Partyka demonstrates how some cops are

ignorant of the law and the Constitution and

escalate a situation without provocation.


Partyka pursues julian, who is backing up

outside on foot and continues filming. Partyka

announces he is putting Julian under arrest,

apparently violating his right to be on public

property on the pretext that Julian has failed

to identify himself.


Julian points out that when no crime is

involved, he has a Constitutional right

to keep his identity to himself.


Partyka has his hand on his tazer, which

is still holstered .. and Julian asks him

why he's doing that.


A youthful officer, possibly of higher rank,

appears on the scene .. recognizes that

Partyka is escalating .. and takes over

the questioning in a more cordial tone

as Partyka exits the confrontation.


Source... on YouTube, Trooper Escalates,

LackLuster channel

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When an extroverted citizen

enounters a mouthy cop.


In Aurora, Illinois, Officers Young and

Piscopo stop citizen Andy over two

apparently minor traffic infractions.


Andy is absurdly talkative and this is

what it gets him after confronting

Officer Young from inside the vehicle...


Two citations, grounds for a lawsuit

that has dragged on for years, and a

dubious insinuation that Andy

allegedly drove from a property where

various serious crimes supposedly had

taken place.


Andy might have saved himself a lot of

trouble had he kept his mouth shut,

refrained from arguing with Young

and not asked Young the reason

for the traffic stop.


Police records later indicated there

had not been crimes committed

at the location in question.


Source... at YouTube, 'Argue and I

write you a ticket', LackLuster channel

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Is the angry officer justified in

issuing driver a "lawful order"?


According to a video posted by an ex-cop and

former sheriff's deputy .. in the absence of a

crime, "roll your window down all the way"

is not a lawful police order, but "step out of

the vehicle" is a lawful order.


The ex-cop later notes that the primary officer

is retaliating for the driver's refusal to

roll his window down.


At first, the driver shows extreme patience

as the officer repeatedly shouts at him to

roll down the window. But eventually the

driver's attitude changes.


He does obey the command to exit the vehicle.


Source... at YouTube.com, video titled

Cops are FURIOUS because driver

doesn't roll down his window

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From a video titled How Cops Beat You in the Interrogation....


"Remember, everything you say can and will be used

against you.  Anything that can be twisted will be twisted

against you.  Don't try and talk your way out of anything.


"Ask for an attorney.  And shut up."


Don't fall for the line that "things are gonna go easier

on you if you confess."


-- Vinnie Rivera on the YouTube channel Rivera Law

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Broken record strategy, for police.


The "broken record" strategy is

used when asking for what you want or in certain

negotiating situations. The primary actor

repeats a phrase or a request ad nauseum

like an old-time broken record that

repeats and repeats and repeats due to

a stuck needle.


The technique is extremelly useful during

police questioning as the video titled

"What to Say When You Encounter Police"

demonstrates. The concept here is based

on the U.S. Constitutional right to remain

silent, interpreted as not being required

to answer questions. This is also known

as invoking the Fifth Amendment.


Invoking this Constitutional right can prevent

a citizen from inadvertently saying something

that the police can construe as incriminating.


The video is available on YouTube at the

Nevada Audits channel.

Aidan in HCMC

headline;


RECENT VIETNAM IMMIGRANT

BEATEN BY POLICE AFTER

TWICE ASKING HIS NAME


    "I have lost all confidence in our police", exclaimed Phuc Yeu.

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The Sunflower State 'two-step'

found unconsitutional.


A federal judge has ruled that Kansas

police need to stop their unconstitutional

method of delaying motorists unnecessarily

after traffic stops in order to have more time

to pursue possible contraband and have

probable cause to search the car.


For years, cops in Kansas were often

completing a traffic stop and then finding

a pre-text for re-initiating discussion with

a motorist.


The judge is appointing a special master

to evaluate police compliance with the

no-two-step ruling in Kansas.


Source... "State Police ordered to stop

illegally detaining drivers," on YouTube

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This is the best traffic-stop video I've

ever seen, says the host of the video

referenced below.


The Batman-voiced protagonist of the video,

being stopped by Michigan State policemen

for an alleged insurance violation, proceeds

to 'own' the "rookie" cops who attempt to

interrogate him.


At YouTube.com... "Best traffic stop video

I've ever seen" on the San Joaquin Valley

Transparency channel

sjbabilon5

The idiots which in Russia called SU ciztizens (they have over 100 presidents of the USSR), that in the US called "international citizen" / "sovereign citizen"


Some of them:

Aidan in HCMC

...(they have over 100 presidents of the USSR)...
-@sjbabilon5

What is this thing you call "USSR "?

sjbabilon5

...(they have over 100 presidents of the USSR)...
-@sjbabilon5
What is this thing you call "USSR "?
-@Aidan in HCMC



Mostly harmless and funny.

But on a few occasion they make trouble, like blow up phone cables.

martinaston906

@Aidan in HCMC Union of Sovietic Socialist Republic, the new name of this country after Gorbatchef and before B. Elstine is Russia (1981).

Aidan in HCMC

...(they have over 100 presidents of the USSR)...
-@sjbabilon5
What is this thing you call "USSR "?
-@Aidan in HCMC



Mostly harmless and funny.
But on a few occasion they make trouble, like blow up phone cables.
-@sjbabilon5

I can't even imagine how much trouble that must be. I have trouble with balloons!