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@roddiesho

Roddie- I don't have ANY legal documents/cards with my address on them.  I DID go through the tortuous process of getting my Brazilian Driver's License, back in 2023.  It wasn't that difficult, haha, other than the plain INEPTITUDE and bureaucracy of dealing with the local DETRAN here in Paraiba (Mangabeira site).  But everything you do here in Brazil, they will want some verification of home residence, which can be an internet, electric, water or cell phone bill in your name.  It took some time in my case, because they wouldn't let me open an account in my name because my CPF didn't have enough (or any) history on it, so I had to have everything put into my Brazilian wife's name.... Eventually, we got a new house to rent and that contract (with our address and all of our names on it, and signed and stamped at the Cartorio (Notary).  That gave me the opportunity to put everything into my name that I wanted to have: electric, water, internet, cell phone, insurance, etc.  And they all have my current address.  But none of my CNH (Driver's LIcense), SUS, Private Health care plan, or Permanent Residency card (RG) have my address on them. I am assuming that is better for security. 

@MA22 Thanx! As you probably know there has been a storm brewing about coming and going on International Travel. A magazine article advised what you should have handy to show where you live.  I realized then that I did not have anything with my address on it to show where I actually lived. My American driver's license is it, which of course is no longer valid (someone else owns that house now).

Well, my wife failed the driver's test twice, and she is native. I guess I will have to take my shot at it soon.

Roddie in Retirement🕵

04/25/25 @roddiesho.  As you say, the CRNM doesn't show your address; as MA22 says, neither does the Driver's License.  The National ID Card -- CIN -- doesn't either, and is only available to citizens anyway. 

I know at least three "official" apps that (optionally) record your address as part of your account profile, so you can show it on the screen there if you need to.  In all cases, you may have to input it or edit it yourself:

-- gov.br

-- SUS

-- your cell carrier

At least TIM, which is my carrier, has my address in my profile on their app.

04/25/25 @roddiesho Roddie- I don't have ANY legal documents/cards with my address on them. I DID go through the tortuous process of getting my Brazilian Driver's License, back in 2023. It wasn't that difficult, haha, other than the plain INEPTITUDE and bureaucracy of dealing with the local DETRAN here in Paraiba (Mangabeira site). - @MA22

I got my Driver's License in 2019, renewed it in 2022, and have to go back next month to renew it again.  I'm not looking forward to it.  I can't really say that I found DETRAN inept, exactly, but I did find them inexplicable, like they were following a secret process that only they knew.

@abthree Ouch! Well, I am not planning to travel for a few years so that`s it. The car is in my name, so I guess I can take that documentation. I pay the electricity, but I don`t think it is in my name. Glad to know ahead of time anyway.

Much Appreciation!

Roddie in Retirement🕵

@roddiesho

Official documents in Brasil do not show your address. The obvious reason is that, because robberies are so frequent here. anyone stealing a wallet or purse would instantly know where you live. Even worse, if you are kidnapped (fairly common her as well) your kidnappers would have instant access to your address. That's the sad reality of a high-crime country. I keep an image of a utility bill with my name on my cellular, encrypted so I must enter a password to open it. It is usually accepted in a pinch.

05/05/25 @jonesio.  Once we got past the election, were you able to get your Título de Eleitor and CIN without any further complications?

@jonesio Thanx, I do take exception to the "high crime country" though. I am very protective of Brazils reputation because I have been treated so well here for all the time I have lived here, as well as the fact that most of my family is from Brazil. I have lived in a very small village in Northeastern Brazil for 3 years and have not witnessed or heard of any crime or acts of violence in my new hometown since I have been here. In fact, the one time I lost my I Phone, several neighbors in my village helped me look for it and eventually found it in the street.  There are stories, such as the girl who had her Iphone stolen while she was waving it around in celebration in Rio during carnaval. The fact is Brazil is a very, very large country and I hate to paint "Brasil" with one brush. I previously lived in the USA where there are countless, Mass Shootings in Elementary Schools, Walmarts and shopping malls, as well as Car Jackings of numurous hi-ranking officials as well as just ordinary citizens. The Secretary of Homeland Security just had her purse stolen at a high-end cafe in the Nation's Capitol. She had $3k, her passport, her Driver's License and her Homeland Security ID in it (Unfortunately even though she had two secret service agents assigned to her, they were at the bar and didn't see anything). The CEO of United Healthcare was just gunned down in the street outside a Posh Hotel. Yet I don`t provide a footnote to anyone interested in traveling to the USA about it being a "dangerous country".

I am sorry if it seems I am more bothered than most by this, but I have had to deal with assertions about Brazil for 40 years since I was a teenager visiting RIO. My Brazilian mother is from Niteroi, so I would come over to RIO to hang out. Many of the American young men used to hang out at a Cafe across the street from Copacabana Beach. They heard that Brazilian girls were EASY, so since I knew Portuguese, they kept asking me to go up to some of them and say, "Hey Baby...." in Portuguese and introduce them for a date or more. I told them that my cousins and family were Brazilian, and it was very insulting, but they persisted. After all this is Brazil, call it what you want.

Roddie in Retirement🕵