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L card rejected

PseudoName1

Hello,


I have been working for 5 years.

I applied for the L card but I got response after 3 months that  it has been rejected.

I am yet to receive the reason of rejection.

What are the options I have?

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Kitah

Hi, very sorry to hear about this unfortunate outcome. I would advise that you wait for a few weeks and see if the commune or ministry will send a letter that stipulates the reasons for rejection. If you do not hear anything from them in the next two weeks, I would suggest that you go to your commune and ask. They will probably be in a position to explain why. You can re-apply again once you have a clear idea why your application was rejected. Really sorry!

PseudoName1

@Kitah

Thanks for the reply.

I will go to the commune.

ievgenfeldmann

not local contract ?

SimCityAT

Hello,
I have been working for 5 years.
I applied for the L card but I got response after 3 months that it has been rejected.
I am yet to receive the reason of rejection.
What are the options I have? - @PseudoName1

Wait to hear what reason they give, then people with be able to give you what options you have.

Mu Jaycee

@PseudoName1

I'm sorry to hear about your situation.


To better assist you, could you please provide a few more details about your case?


  1. When did you start working (month and year)?
  2. What types of work permits have you held since then?
  3. Were there any interruptions during the five-year period?


The more information you can share, the easier it will be for us to offer accurate advice and guidance.

PseudoName1

The annexe 17  gave the reason that I was a detached worker for 1 year  and should apply next year.

PseudoName1

What other options I do have now?

maharaji1984

Now i have learned another thing.


Previously in this forum has been told that :


If you have any gap between jobs within the 5year period, the clock resets from day one, and a new 5-year counting period begins.


According to the OP, a 1  year gap within the 5 year period can be compensated by working additional days equivalent to the number of missing days.


Interesting.

Mu Jaycee

@maharaji1984

Thanks for sharing — I bet few people know this. So it means that the clock doesn’t necessarily reset to zero when one comes back to the Kingdom? That’s really useful to know.

Mu Jaycee

@PseudoName1

I  guess you’ll have to comply with that decision for now. Just apply again next year — you’ll be 100% sure to get the L card then

maharaji1984

@Mu Jaycee

i am not saying so. Its what OP says.


I even didnt give one day off between my different jobs in 5 year to gain L card.


If the rule is how OP saying, then people work as they wish and once complete 5 years working days in xxx years after gains the right.


Sounds doesnt makes sens to me.

Elena Igor

Isn’t the requirement 5 years of uninterrupted rule about maintaining  legal residence for L card application?


The 5 years uninterrupted work rule applies to one of the paths for citizenship (naturalisation process) ?


ievgenfeldmann

lol you knew exactly the rules and that it will be rejected …

maharaji1984

@Elena Igor

The answer of your second question is NO if person already did inburgering/intégration civique.


Sincerely i didnt see any source that obligates uninterupping of 5 years working requirments to get L card.


Source that i read only says that : You have to reside in Belgium 5 years uninterrupted except a few moths in some conditions.


And study counts as half. Thats all.


I wonder if anyone get the L card uniterruped reside in Kingdom 5 years but not worked uniterruped.


I believe you shared the same source that i am reffering. (i cant see at this moment as  link still under review)

Elena Igor

@maharaji1984

There’s many people who move for work and then change status to F card after marriage for example, and receive L card without working the full 5 years

maharaji1984

@Elena Igor

Family reunification and EU citizen cases are execption. I am asking about those who hold A card from day 1.

Elena Igor

@maharaji1984

People lose their jobs, and find one within a couple of months and start working again, they still qualify after 5 years of legal residence if the jobs they worked in were local contracts.

PseudoName1

@maharaji1984

In my case the one year detached period  was the initial one year.

The past 4 years were local contract.

They gave me the reason based on Eu-richtilijn 2003/109/EG.

maharaji1984

@PseudoName1

Did you receive an annex 16ter? 

PseudoName1

@maharaji1984

No I received Annexe 17

KTantwerp05

Its just a bad luck. You should have gotten the L card.

1 year working as a detached employee -- paying all taxes but not social security

4 years -- paying all taxes and also social security.


May I ask since when you are registered in Belgium and which area (Flanders/Brussels)?

PseudoName1

I was staying in brussels and moved to flanders before 1 year.

I am in belgium since   2020

PseudoName1

I have seen many of my colleagues similar cases but their L card got accepted.

Even the commune told it is weird that the ministry rejected it.

KTantwerp05

@PseudoName1

Indeed, as I said you should have gotten the L card. Anyway, 1 more year to wait.

Ensure you are enrolled in Belgium Health Insurance System (Ziekenfonds) and not just private insurance. Submit the copy of Ziekenfonds during your submissions.

maharaji1984

@KTantwerp05


while  National Social Security and ziekenfonds connected each other  they are totally different topics.


I belive IBZ considering if National Social Security contrubitons had stopped ever in 5 years.


Is it the case @PseudoName1 ? This can be seen here :

PseudoName1

@maharaji1984

my social security started from year 2021 as i was detached for 1 year when i came to belgium in 2020.

maharaji1984

@PseudoName1

So this information is prooving my theory . I think to be eligible get L card  you should complete 5 years being under NSS . Otherwise is rejecting.

pol2lop

@PseudoName1
So this information is prooving my theory . I think to be eligible get L card you should complete 5 years being under NSS . Otherwise is rejecting. - @maharaji1984

It seems to be the case. A friend of mine got her L card with PhD years counting as full (ONSS paid).

maharaji1984

@pol2lop

Voilà , i believe PhD years are counting half if just student activity performed but no NSS recorded.

In your friends case, she is considered as full time worker because full NSS paid.


From this information can we say


" authorities checking 5 years complete NSS records  in xx years.

If this is not completed, rejecting the application." ?

PseudoName1

@maharaji1984

I think  it depends on the approver.

If the approver is digging deep and reading all the clauses they might reject.

As I have seen several cases where colleagues  came during same time along with me in the same company for eg in 2020 and switched to local company in 2022 (started paying social security from this time ) and their L card was provided by their commune as they didn't got the rejection letter from ministry.

maharaji1984

@PseudoName1

Since this is not a standard or regular process, its very strange. This kind of thing can happen in third-world countries. 😄


In some point officers are playing with decisions of others. (in my case.)

mpssalazar

@maharaji1984

Would this suggest that having a student job while being a student would make that time count as full (and not half)? This student job appears in the link you posted, but think that's too optimistic for my case :) still, worth asking for your opinion!

maharaji1984

@mpssalazar

Apparently it was  counted full  time one of the forum members case while user was student and meanwhile was working.


But, I don't know the detail of student if was working at flexi or student job status and social security payments were  paying full.


This can only reply those who has information about it.

mpssalazar

@maharaji1984

Thank you for your reply!

PseudoName1

@maharaji1984


Can i apply for B card instead on the next renewal of my A card.