玩偶姐姐

OK , I do appreciate all the replies.

Silence is the loudest answer, which says: "don't come" [i.e. "it is all BS"].

Roger that.

Hi Alxz,

You ask a technical question
玩偶姐姐 is not a technical forum but we are few sharing info on Internet, 4G, etc....

On the undersea cables, it is better "on the paper" and 1 new cable is supposed to be in operation during the year (Connecting with the US)

Please check my previous post on how to select an ISP in Vietnam.
/forum/viewtopic.php?id=603241

So, as you know, Danang is well connected (Main VN's backbone for the undersea cables)

You want a 200M+ package? You won't be able to get it from commercial offer. (Corporate package probably).
Even in TH, I'm quite disappointed by the Fiber there. It is mostly download, not much upload, which limit a lot my interest.

VN is not as fast in DL (Well, TH is not great compared to more developed Asian countries), but I got more UP here in VN than in TH.

My previous post answers your questions, but let's share again with fresher info:

Bad news, speeds haven't changed much. Only prices (a little lower) and coverage (Either FTTH or 4G).
Good news, it may change fast!

Fiber connection (Home/Semi-pro type)
- The fastest I've seen is the CMC (Usually they use cable). Can get up to 160M
but 12M VND per month (Ouch)
- Viettel comes 2nd, with 120M
for 10M. (I'm using their 60M package for 880k which seems the most cost effective in >50M connections)
- Or VNPT (Robust investment in the past few years in undersea cables)
- The FPT 80M package is nice too ("only" 3M)

As you can see, for home use, those packages are quite expansive.
And they might not be all available in your location, but Danang is well covered normally.

But it might get much faster in the next few months. Few days ago, FPT announced a new package, available 1st of May (Today!). 1Gbps ! in HN and HCMC, both ways (DL/UP) no idea about the price, but it is a sharp increase. (I hated those small increases like move from 50M to 60M, then 80M, 100M, 120M, etc..).
However i was not able to find more info yet. (I'm afraid the price will be crazy high. But it may means some price drop of others packages)

4G
Viettel is having by far the widest 4G coverage. But it doesn't mean fastest connection, but I cannot confirm.
I am with mobifone and I am quite disappointed. In HCMC. I struggle to get correct speed.
Everytime I got 4G (Not everywhere in HCMC obviously), I get less than 15M. I only have 2 speedtest over (35M UP 10M DL) and during the night (In a lucky weather I suppose).

It's better than 3G by far, but don't rely on 4G as a fixed broadband.

When will you be coming?

Hi Dudumomo,

Thank you for a breath of fresh air with your superb 1st class answer.

1Gbps sounds absolutely fantastic. However, I have already learned in TH/MY not to trust anything I read, see and/or hear, unless it is a Speedtest.net screenshot with a timestamp and provider name on it.

VND 12M (EUR 475?) for a 160Mbps is too much, unless it's 160M/160M guaranteed with SLA 99,98%. However, for 1Gbps I would be ready to pay that amount (with a fixed/permanent IP), it will definitely be worth it (if it is really the JP NEC cable and ping will be below 15ms - that is just a super productive environment and will get paid back very fast).

Here in TH a national company called AIS is advertising "Up to 1 Gbps" fiber all over CM for as long as I am here (almost 2 years). However, when at their central office, they prefer to say something like "it is not in your area yet" (I have checked all the areas available), or even more absurd - "it is shared for the whole city" (yes, as "funny" as that). They have promptly removed 1Gbps offer from their in-office brochures though.

House managers of private "luxurious" condos here do not know the difference between ADSL/VDSL phone connectivity and FTTX/FTTH fiber optic, and will tell "yes, no problems, you can have fiber directly in your apartment" until a 1 year rental agreement is signed and it is "too late".

Agree with you on the low upload speeds in TH even on 200M package. They advertise 200M DL / 60M UL, but in reality it is about 115M/35M and that is indeed not good enough for some intense server side work with multiple simultaneous download/upload streams happening every minute (ping over 30ms plus 35M upload is actually slow, but better than DSL/VDSL hands down). I have an evidence of 135M / 83M with TOT/3BB here in CM though, but need a house closer to the old city for that.

>When will you be coming?

Well, I am pretty tired of the local TH government and the "milk a foreigner" nation-wide approach of them alltogether (with xenophobia and other "modern LOS" privileges), so as soon as VN gets their internet speeds available at at least matching speeds, I'm ready to buy a visa, ticket and a space in a managed warehouse in VN.

If they really have 1Gbps since the 1st of May (i.e. today), I am prepared to do the move any day, any minute.

Is it not too polluted in HCMC / HN ? Numbeo ranked HCMC No.12 above Beijing (14) in their top polluted cities in the World 2017 survey, which is worrying. I have seen Beijing videos, and if HCMC is worse than that, 1Gbps is not going to lure me moving there.

I am sure that VN is not an order of magnitude better than TH and has its own issues, but at least I can get a 1 year multiple entry "business" visa online without 5 year prepayment at a down to Earth price.

TH gets really, really overpriced and absolutely obnoxious these days, in my humble alienated opinion.

Pollution is bad in Saigon, the dust count is also a major problem. The government doesn't understand the street cleaning system yet and dirt and dust is everywhere.

1 video of FPT 1Gbps on Speedtest

The guy reaches >700M. 8.4MB/s on Google drive, etc...
But as usual, 1 test is not enough.

Let's wait few more days/weeks to get more info.

On the pollution side, it is more polluted than Bangkok and most of others Asian countries.
If you are looking for a nice place to live, not too expansive with good internet, I recommend Taiwan.
Renting is not too expansive, food is cheap and you can get fast internet connection

For example, their 100M/100M costs 43 USD/m, their 300M/100M, 56 USD, their 500M/250M, 80 USD and their 1G/600M, 120 USD.

Of course, Taiwan has it issues too.

Hi all,

@colinoscapee Today 04:03:07 Report #5
Thanks much for your insight. Ho Chi Minh City (12), Hanoi (20) and based on your input - Saigon (N/A) - are all suffering from the pollution (src: Numbeo Pollution Index by City 2017).

Da Nang (N/A) leaves a thin light of hope.

@dudumomo Today 04:27:46 Report #6
Thank you for your valuable followup. The video looks amazing. 1ms with 700/789 Mbps is awesome. The question is price & terms.

Re 4G - here in TH I have cancelled/terminated every contract I had (2 fiber and 1 ADSL/DSL/VDSL) and now fairly well working with 4G from AIS contract free with somewhat EUR 6 base + EUR 6 per 10GB traffic in 15 days limit. It is surprising how stable and fast it actually is even while being tethered via iPhone's "personal hotspot" via 2.4GHz being routed/repeated further via a router to all other devices.



I have sent emails to every provider you've mentioned: CMC Telecom. Infr. Corp., Viettel, Fibervnn and FPT Telecom (which I assume was featured in this HCMC video) with a request re 1Gbps fiber line.

Let's see if I would get any informative response in English.

Thank you for bearing with me.

N.B. Taipei/TW is nearly as difficult in obtaining permanent residence permit / self employment work visa as Singapore/SG. That basically leaves no other choices as internet in NZ is terrible still and HK has already become a kind of Chinese paper fortress for an entrepreneur with cosmic prices for everything (it is China full stop now, SAR is forgotten). KR is stuck between KP, CN and US, and their housing options are quite depressing. MY is out due to low speed internet and high crime. ID has terrible infrastructure (internet 8Mbps max) and insane corruption. PH is a no go area for a white foreigner with equipment and money.

Keep us updated on your progress for a 1Gbps connection

4G in TH is quite good indeed (I'm using True and works great).

Let's hope VN will catch up fast!

Keep us updated on your progress for a 1Gbps connection

After HK & SG the World is so-o-o slo-o-o-o-ow.

The only response for over 3 hours was from CMC informing about their national holiday.

Re: VN DAD Fiber Internet 1Gbps - CMC Telecom. Infr. Corp.

Dear Mr. ... ,

I'm ... from CMC Telecom, i recived your information request about Fiber internet 1Gbps.

Today is vacation of our country so i will email to you when we back to work on tomorrow.

Thanks and please contact with me by this email.

Have a nice day.

Thanks & Best Regards.

True.

May 1聽 聽 Monday聽 聽 Liberation Day/Reunification Day observed聽 聽 National holiday
May 2聽 聽 Tuesday聽 聽 International Labor Day聽 聽
National holiday

It is up!


In HN and HCMC, we can now get 1GBPS from FPT for 1.8M / month (+need VAT). Looks very reasonable!
And 2M installation (Free if paid 1 full year). But it is a 2Y contract.

dudumomo Today 13:58:29 Report #10
67 posts


That is awesome.

Do you live in HCMC right? How severe is pollution?

p.s. Have not received any replies re. DaNang yet.

Starting May 1, 1977, FPT Telecom officially launched a package of 1 Gbps for individual household customers in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City.

Are they still living in 20th century?

I understand they (VN) disagree with the rest of the World and have their own timescale like in TH.

Thanks much Dudumomo.

You have helped me to make my decision to finally move to VN in no time.

Let's see what the future brings there.

Haha, they use a different calendar, not our Gregorian one.

Well, welcome to VN then!

Let's roll.

"If you don't do this, nobody else will".

---

From聽 聽
Me <...@...>聽 聽 Th 4. May 08:33
To聽 聽
... <...@cmctelecom.vn>
Cc聽 聽
'...' <...@cmctelecom.vn>,
'Presale - HCM' <...@cmctelecom.vn>,
'... - MGR Department Project HCM' <...@cmctelecom.vn>,
'... - HCM' <...@cmctelecom.vn>,
'... - MGR ETS' <...@cmctelecom.vn>,
'... - D.DIR TTKT' <...@cmctelecom.vn>

Re: RE: VN DAD Fiber Internet 1Gbps - CMC Telecom. Infr. Corp.

Dear Mr. ..., Mr. ... and the CMC Telecom. Inf. Corp. Team,

Thank you for your team effort to address my request/inquiry.

>1Gbps fiber optic internet is FTTO (Fiber To The Office) or DIA (Dedicated Internet Access) ?

I intend to use and to be paying as a natural person and will use it at "home" for my private use, if that is what you are asking (FTTH / Fiber To The Home).

If it is not possible for your current structure to offer such service for a natural person, please let me know your terms, requirements and limitations for me to consider applying as a juristic person. Let me know if you may accept an APEC entity as a signee / benefactor or if I have to incorporate in Vietnam otherwise.

"Dedicated Internet Access" - do you mean permanent / dedicated IP address? Please elaborate.

>How much Bandwidth is used in domestic / international ?

It will be mostly International traffic (98%). I would prefer to have unlimited traffic, where possible, or at least 35GB per month at the minimum.

>Where 鈥� s the聽 location in Da Nang, do you want to deploy infrastructure (1Gbps fiber optic internet) ?

I believe it would easier / faster to deploy that service based on your possibilities. Please let me know in which areas / districts / streets / condominiums of Da Nang would it be feasible for your company to deploy 1Gbps+ fiber optic internet, and what are the requirements and/or limitations.

The grounds of this request are (A),(B):

(A) your competition has already delivered 1Gbps in Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi for VND 1.8M+VAT and VND 2M installation fee (free for 1 year contract) [1,2].

(B) there is backbone infrastructure already in place - Japanese-built (NEC; TSE: 6701) Asia Pacific Gateway (APG) goes directly to Da Nang, which is almost 2x times faster than Asia America Gateway (AAG) [3] with no downtime reported so far, as it is newly built with official delivery in November 2016 [4]; whereas IA and AAG both connect V农ng T脿u and further Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi with significant issues reported recently [5,6].

Therefore, there is a huge window of opportunity right there in Da Nang for your fiber optic business and there are 0 (ZERO) companies with a competitive at least 1Gbps offer(s) available. Since the AAG channel has the 100 Gbps transmission with 54Tbps capacity [4], it is already technically feasible to offer speeds much higher than just 1Gbps directly in Da Nang, as it has unique Japanese (NEC; TSE: 6701) APG infrastructure in place and no other city in Viet Nam has it except for the V农ng T脿u; the lack of competition makes your offer viable for the long term as pioneering drastic internet speed increase in Da Nang for speends of 1Gbps and up.

Thank you in advance for your professional and a swift response.

Sources:

[1]

[2] Speedtest.net proof:

[3]

[4]

[5] attached APG_IA_AAG.jpg (102.7 KB) ,
http://static.new.tuoitre.vn/tto/i/s626 鈥� 307071.jpg

[6]

"The show must go on." (c)

From聽 聽
Me <...@...>聽 聽 Th 4. May 15:46
To聽 聽
...@viettel.com.vn
Cc聽 聽
...@viettel.com.vn,
...@viettel.com.vn,
...@viettel.com.vn

VN DAD Fiber Internet 1Gbps - Vittel [VN]
APG_IA_AAG.jpg (102.7 KB)

K铆nh g峄璱 Qu媒 么ng v脿 Qu媒 b脿,

Do ch瓢a nh岷璶 膽瓢峄�c ph岷�n h峄搃 cho y锚u c岷�u/c芒u h峄廼 tr瓢峄沜 膽贸 c峄�a m矛nh b岷眓g ti岷縩g Anh, n锚n t么i 膽茫 thu锚 m峄檛 d峄媍h gi岷� chuy锚n nghi峄噋 膽峄� 膽瓢a ra y锚u c岷�u m峄檛 c谩ch chi ti岷縯 b岷眓g ng么n ng峄� c峄�a qu媒 么ng/b脿.

T么i 膽ang r岷�t quan t芒m 膽岷縩 c啤 s峄� h岷� t岷�ng Internet c谩p quang t峄慽 thi峄僽 1Gbps 峄� 膼脿 N岷祅g.

(01) M峄�c 膽铆ch c峄�a t么i l脿 s峄� d峄�ng v脿 thanh to谩n cho d峄媍h v峄� n脿y nh瓢 m峄檛 th峄� nh芒n, 膽峄搉g th峄漣 s岷� s峄� d峄�ng d峄媍h v峄� n脿y t岷�i "nh脿" cho m峄�c 膽铆ch c谩 nh芒n, 谩p d峄�ng 膽峄慽 v峄沬 膽i峄乽 kho岷�n FTTH (FTTH / Internet c谩p quang k岷縯 n峄慽 t峄沬 t岷璶 nh脿).

(02) N岷縰 c啤 s峄� h岷� t岷�ng hi峄噉 t岷�i c峄�a qu媒 么ng/b脿 kh么ng th峄� cung c岷�p 膽瓢峄�c d峄媍h v峄� n脿y / tri峄僴 khai c啤 s峄� h岷� t岷�ng 1Gbps cho m峄檛 th峄� nh芒n, xin vui l貌ng cho bi岷縯 c谩c y锚u c岷�u, 膽i峄乽 kho岷�n v脿 h岷�n ch岷� 膽峄� t么i c贸 th峄� xem x茅t s峄� d峄�ng nh瓢 m峄檛 ph谩p nh芒n. Ngo脿i ra c农ng cho t么i bi岷縯 ri锚ng l脿 li峄噓 qu媒 么ng/b脿 c贸 ch岷�p nh岷璶 m峄檛 t峄� ch峄ヽ APEC l脿m ng瓢峄漣 k媒 t锚n / ng瓢峄漣 t脿i tr峄� hay li峄噓 t么i c贸 ph岷�i th脿nh l岷璸 c么ng ty 峄� Vi峄噒 Nam kh么ng.

(03) T么i tin r岷眓g s岷� d峄� d脿ng / nhanh ch贸ng h啤n 膽峄� tri峄僴 khai d峄媍h v峄� n脿y c膬n c峄� tr锚n nh峄痭g kh岷� n膬ng t峄� ph铆a qu媒 么ng/b脿. Vui l貌ng cho bi岷縯 khu v峄眂 / qu岷璶 / 膽瓢峄漬g / khu chung c瓢 n脿o 峄熉� 膼脿 N岷祅g m脿 c么ng ty c峄�a qu媒 么ng/b脿 c贸 th峄� tri峄僴 khai 膽瓢峄�c m岷�ng internet c谩p quang 1Gbps+ v脿 c贸 nh峄痭g y锚u c岷�u v脿 / ho岷穋 h岷�n ch岷� n脿o.

Nh峄痭g c膬n c峄� 膽峄� t么i 膽瓢a ra y锚u c岷�u / c芒u h峄廼 n脿y l脿 (A),(B):

(A) qu媒 么ng/b脿 膽茫 c岷�nh tranh 膽峄� cung c岷�p d峄媍h v峄� Internet 1Gbps 峄� Th脿nh ph峄� H峄� Ch铆 Minh v脿 H脿 N峄檌 v峄沬 gi谩 1,8 tri峄噓 膽峄搉g+VAT v脿 2 tri峄噓 膽峄搉g ph铆 l岷痯 膽岷穞 (mi峄卬 ph铆 cho h峄�p 膽峄搉g 1 n膬m) [1,2].

(B) c贸 s岷祅 c啤 s峄� h岷� t岷�ng x瓢啤ng s峄憂g t岷�i ch峄� - C谩p quang bi峄僴 qu峄慶 t岷� Ch芒u 脕 Th谩i B矛nh D瓢啤ng (APG) do Nh岷璽 B岷�n x芒y d峄眓g (NEC; TSE: 6701) 膽i th岷硁g 膽岷縩 膼脿 N岷祅g, nhanh g岷�p 2 l岷�n so v峄沬 C谩p quang bi峄僴 qu峄慶 t岷� Ch芒u 脕 t峄沬 M峄� (AAG) [3] 膽岷縩 nay ch瓢a c贸 kho岷�ng th峄漣 gian ch岷縯 n脿o 膽瓢峄�c b谩o c谩o, do c谩p quang n脿y v峄玜 m峄沬 膽瓢峄�c x芒y d峄眓g v脿 khai th谩c ch铆nh th峄ヽ v脿o th谩ng M瓢峄漣 m峄檛 n膬m 2016 [4]; trong khi 膽贸 c岷� c谩p quang IA v脿 AAG 膽峄乽 k岷縯 n峄慽 V农ng T脿u v脿 xa h啤n n峄痑 膽i th脿nh ph峄� H峄� Ch铆 Minh v脿 H脿 N峄檌 v峄沬 nhi峄乽 v岷�n 膽峄� l峄沶 膽瓢峄�c b谩o c谩o g岷�n 膽芒y [5,6].

Do 膽贸, s岷� l脿 m峄檛 c谩nh c峄璦 c啤 h峄檌 c峄眂 k峄� r峄檔g l峄沶 ngay t岷�i 膼脿 N岷祅g n脿y 膽峄慽 v峄沬 ho岷�t 膽峄檔g kinh doanh c谩p quang c峄�a qu媒 么ng/b脿 v脿 kh么ng c贸 0 (KH脭NG) c么ng ty n脿o c贸 th峄� c岷�nh tranh v峄沬 d峄媍h v峄� cung c岷�p t峄慽 thi峄僽 1Gbps tr锚n th峄� tr瓢峄漬g.

K峄� t峄� khi k锚nh APG c贸 膽瓢峄漬g truy峄乶 d岷玭 100Gbps v峄沬 dung l瓢峄�ng 54Tbps [4], th矛 vi峄嘽 cung c岷�p 膽瓢峄漬g truy峄乶 t峄慶 膽峄� nhanh h啤n 1Gbps tr峄眂 ti岷縫 ngay t岷�i 膼脿 N岷祅g l脿 ho脿n to脿n kh岷� thi v峄� m岷穞 k峄� thu岷璽, nh峄� c贸 c啤 s峄� h岷� t岷�ng c谩p quang APG 膽峄檆 膽谩o c峄�a Nh岷璽 B岷�n (NEC; TSE: 6701) t岷�i ch峄� v脿 kh么ng m峄檛 th脿nh ph峄� n脿o 峄� Vi峄噒 Nam ngo岷�i tr峄� V农ng T脿u c贸 膽瓢峄�c 膽i峄乽 n脿y; 脥t s峄� c岷�nh tranh s岷� gi煤p d峄媍h v峄� m脿 qu媒 么ng/b脿 mang l岷�i kh岷� thi trong d脿i h岷�n nh瓢 m峄檛 s峄� t膬ng tr瓢峄焠g m岷�nh m岷� mang t铆nh ti锚n phong v峄� t峄慶 膽峄� Internet 峄� 膼脿 N岷祅g v峄沬 t峄慶 膽峄� tr锚n 1Gbps.

膼峄檔g th谩i n脿y s岷� khi岷縩 膼脿 N岷祅g gi峄憂g nh瓢 nh峄痭g qu峄慶 gia 膽i 膽岷�u trong khu v峄眂 nh瓢 Singapore v脿 Nh岷璽 B岷�n v峄� c啤 s峄� h岷� t岷�ng, v脿 膼脿 N岷祅g s岷� tr峄� n锚n h岷�p d岷玭 v峄沬 du kh谩ch v脿 doanh nh芒n h啤n so v峄沬 Hong Kong, H脿n Qu峄慶, New Zealand v脿 Th谩i Lan, ch瓢a k峄� 膽岷縩 Myanmar, L脿o, Campuchia V脿 Trung Qu峄慶.

T么i hy v峄峮g r岷眓g c么ng ty c峄�a qu媒 么ng/b脿 c贸 th峄� cung c岷�p d峄媍h v峄� b岷眓g ti岷縩g Anh.

C岷�m 啤n tr瓢峄沜 v矛 ph岷�n h峄搃 chuy锚n nghi峄噋 v脿 nhanh ch贸ng c峄�a qu媒 么ng/b脿.

狈驳耻峄搉:

[1]

[2] Speedtest.net proof:

[3]

[4]

[5] 膼铆nh k猫m APG_IA_AAG.jpg (102.7 KB) ,
http://static.new.tuoitre.vn/tto/i/s626 鈥� 307071.jpg

[6]

Thanks.
I'll be glad to see others ISP competing in 1GBPS

After being scammed by a Vietnamese visa agency for a 1 year multiple entry business visa, I have lost any appetite of visiting this country and trying their infrastructure out.

/forum/viewtopic.p 鈥� 03#3671479

I would not be able to handle more BS, scams, lies, disrespect and whatnot than I have had thus far in TH. That is outright disgusting.

It was nice talking to you all.

Good luck.

most places you rent comes with wifi included. Im renting an apartment in Da nang for $350 USD a month and here is the Wifi speed :


This is the typical Wifi average speed youll get with typical apartment. this means its included in your rent. If you want faster, youll have to get a separate connection.

ALXZ wrote:

... I have lost any appetite ...

...

Iteration 2 findings:

* I have paid for an expedited service to the same company again, now during the working hours;
* the visa company/agency is open to constructive critics and eager to improve;
* the people are open minded and willing to learn (!!!);
* I have finally received my letter for 1yr ME DN VOA to be issued at any international airport in VN upon arrival;
* I was offered the Airport fast track service for free;
* The case is closed.

Since the original topic was deleted by moderators, please delete my message #18 above.

Sleep & appetite drastically improved.

Thanks all for bearing with me.

EDIT: The key is to lower expectations to the ground zero and be more appreciative of whatever you get.

Stability of internet here is horrible. The internet companies in Da Nang do not do even a descent job. If Okla speed test says it is ok...they think..Wow its working. They do not lisyen to customers and refuse to fix the problem. If you complain nonstop they may fix it for a short time...hours or days then it is back to the same crap.
聽 Thailand has much better service. If you have any problems there let them know you will not pay the bill if it is not fixed. They get off thier ass pretty fast after that. 3BB is a descent carrier in Thailand. aif i remember correctly my sppeds were 13dl聽 3up...this did not dip or fluctuate.聽 In Vietnam you can have 30dl and around 5 or 6 up..however it fluctuates so much and dips down to zero ir very nearly that you can do nothing.
VN internet blows and they do notvcare andcare not smart enoughbto fix it. Thailand internet is stable and if they do not care...the threat of not paying the bill will make them care.

April 2019聽


Tai Phan
13:59 (1 hour ago)
to me

John,

DA NANG

Expect wi-fi ranges from 35-50+ mbs depending on the apartment/villa complex. It can vary. You can always pay for a little more to get your own router as well.

One bedroom apartment can range from 300-450 per month, whereas two bedroom apartment can range from 600+ based on the kind of added service, location, and quality of the unit.

Thanks,

Sly diggidy wrote:

Stability of internet here is horrible. The internet companies in Da Nang do not do even a descent job. If Okla speed test says it is ok...they think..Wow its working. They do not lisyen to customers and refuse to fix the problem. If you complain nonstop they may fix it for a short time...hours or days then it is back to the same crap.
聽 Thailand has much better service. If you have any problems there let them know you will not pay the bill if it is not fixed. They get off thier ass pretty fast after that. 3BB is a descent carrier in Thailand. aif i remember correctly my sppeds were 13dl聽 3up...this did not dip or fluctuate.聽 In Vietnam you can have 30dl and around 5 or 6 up..however it fluctuates so much and dips down to zero ir very nearly that you can do nothing.
VN internet blows and they do notvcare andcare not smart enoughbto fix it. Thailand internet is stable and if they do not care...the threat of not paying the bill will make them care.

Correct, the speeds in Vietnam are great, especially for local content and youtube, facebook, google etc etc ( all cached locally )...

Things change when you browse international websites or do live streaming like teaching online, this is when stability is not great...聽 certain times of the day the internet crawls slower than a 56k modem when using international bandwitdh ( while at the same time speed tests are telling you everything is fine because it checks local bandwitdh not international ). the locals are 99% of the time almost always using local cached data so they don't notice the slow down at all.

And i dont think there is much anyone can do about it, its part of third world growing infrastructure...