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Moral turpitude

Paulamcconville

Hello everyone. I have a few charges on my record one being manufacturing of Marijuana, another petty theft, another criminal damaging and a telecommunications fraud along with a d.u.i. I was in a really bad place during this time and have not been in any trouble in about 5 years. I have worked really hard to rebuild my life. Will these stop me from being able to get a visa in the phillipines?

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Wingfat

Any felonies or just misdemeanors? I think you'll be OK if you don't have any felonies. The only way to truly know is to try.

Someone I know had a "cultivation without a license" from many years ago, and that did not interfere with his visas. Was on record with the FBI.

I knew another person with petty theft and he also had no problems.

No physical violence or sex related offences    - that is good.

smithta63

Conviction or charge?  There is a major difference.  If you were convicted then you need to read the immigration law and see if your excludable. 

danfinn

Hello everyone. I have a few charges on my record one being manufacturing of Marijuana, another petty theft, another criminal damaging and a telecommunications fraud along with a d.u.i. I was in a really bad place during this time and have not been in any trouble in about 5 years. I have worked really hard to rebuild my life. Will these stop me from being able to get a visa in the phillipines? - @Paulamcconville

Paul, all of those except misdemeanor dui are moral turpitude which will 1) prevent approval of a long term visa and 2) may prevent entry at immigration upon arrival depending upon if they check. Perhaps there is a time period such as 5 years in which those records expire in your jurisdiction? Try to contact a Filipino immigration attorney.

Wingfat

@danfinn

I respectively disagree. He has an excellent chance of getting a visa in the Philippines. They are looking for violent people and people involving sex crimes primarily.

Also contacting a Filipino immigration attorney will be a waste of money. Only contact an attorney after you have been denied if you wish to pursue it.

Lotus Eater

@Paulamcconville

I would start by changing your name 😎

Enzyte Bob

Lotus Eater said to . . . .Paulamcconville: I would start by changing your name.

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&  buy trip insurance.

danfinn

@danfinn I respectively disagree. He has an excellent chance of getting a visa in the Philippines. They are looking for violent people and people involving sex crimes primarily.Also contacting a Filipino immigration attorney will be a waste of money. Only contact an attorney after you have been denied if you wish to pursue it. - @Wingfat

He was correct in stating crimes of moral turpitude is the standard used and some of his are on the list.. Such crimes are as follows and I believe the Phils may consider the marijuana charge a no-go as well.


"These crimes are not defined by a single statute but are determined based on the nature of the offense and its underlying intent. They can have serious consequences, particularly in immigration law".


Murder: A deliberate and unlawful killing of another person.

Voluntary Manslaughter: The unlawful killing of another person without malice aforethought, often in the heat of passion.

Kidnapping: The unlawful seizure and detention of a person against their will.

Robbery: The taking of property from a person through force or threat of force.

Aggravated Assault: Assault that involves a dangerous weapon or the intent to cause serious bodily harm.

Fraud: Deception for personal gain, including mail fraud, wire fraud, and tax evasion.

Theft and Larceny: The unlawful taking of another's property with the intent to permanently deprive them of it.

Forgery: The creation or alteration of a document with the intent to deceive or defraud.

Perjury: The act of lying under oath in a legal proceeding.

Prostitution and Pandering: Engaging in or facilitating prostitution, including procuring others for prostitution.

Lotus Eater

Would the last ex con to leave the States for the Philippines please remember to turn out the lights.

Enzyte Bob

The accumulation of many confrontations with the law is not someone worthy of investing a future, considering the track record.


We never truly know the truthfulness  of anything anonymously posted  on this forum even among outstanding members.


Moral turpitude is a subject that has come up many times.


I believe many times a morality issue basically is someone running away from something or running towards something. Considering it's the Philippines.

danfinn

Would the last ex con to leave the States for the Philippines please remember to turn out the lights. - @Lotus Eater

We did have one youtuber who was once  convicted and sentenced for embezzlement in the USA and he did his time. Then he came to the Philippines and perhaps while applying for an extension or a new visa, BI checked his record, found the conviction and they picked him up and "detained" him in immigration jail until he could gather enough funds to speed up his deportation trial. He is back in the US now. It never mattered that he finished his sentence. And he came here as a tourist on visa waiver. You may have heard of World Zoom's channel.

Lotus Eater

Would the last ex con to leave the States for the Philippines please remember to turn out the lights. - @Lotus Eater
We did have one youtuber who was once convicted and sentenced for embezzlement in the USA and he did his time. Then he came to the Philippines and perhaps while applying for an extension or a new visa, BI checked his record, found the conviction and they picked him up and "detained" him in immigration jail until he could gather enough funds to speed up his deportation trial. He is back in the US now. It never mattered that he finished his sentence. And he came here as a tourist on visa waiver. You may have heard of World Zoom's channel. - @danfinn


Got it. But presumably Jim Rockford (aka Enzyte Bob) can still take on cases in the Philippines as he received a full pardon?

Paulamcconville

@Lotus Eater

Would that even help seeing that most records are pulled up by ss#

Paulamcconville

@Wingfat

My husband has a felony from 20 plus years ago for possession. I have no felonies. The charge for the cultivation was a felony charge but we were not convicted of a felony. Thanks for your response I appreciate it.

Cherryann01

Lotus Eater said to . . . .Paulamcconville: I would start by changing your name.
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& buy trip insurance. - @Enzyte Bob

I don't think the travel insurance company will pay out if he is denied entry since it is up to the individual to make sure he or she meets the entry requirements. of the country they are travelling to.

Enzyte Bob

From watching Youtube videos. (bigpearl  please don't ask me for proof)


People facing multiple charges have some dismissed through plea bargaining or have them reduced, from felonies to a misdemeanor to expedite the court proceedings.


On the other hand, the arresting officers include a whole bunch charges which are contestable. Many of these charges are the same thing but said in a different way.

bigpearl

LOL Bob.

Regardless as we all know with immigration in the Philippines it's entirely up to the officer that puts you through their system, what they find if they search, politeness of the visitor and whether it's a bad hair day or a knock back the night before.

Personally I think on a visitor visa for 30 days they don't look too hard and as long as you smile and say yes sir you will be fine but renewing/extending the visitor visa attract more scrutiny.

Applying for other visa types like 13a or SRRV requires police clearance from your home country unless you manage to live here for 6 months or longer on a visitor visa then you can get local clearance.


Point is the Philippines government don't want bad people living here and understandable.


OMO.


Cheers, Steve.